ACLU wants Navy to stop praying
by Lori Barrett | June 26, 2008 at 12:05 am
Posted in baltimore politics

Since the Naval Academy in Annapolis was founded in 1845, a chaplain has said grace before the midshipmen’s mandatory noon mealtime. Now, the American Civil Liberties Union is threatening legal action if the academy doesn’t end the tradition.
Nine of the 4,200 midshipmen approached the ACLU for help in stopping the practice recently; they feel the prayer violates their constitutional rights. The academy has been faced with complaints and petitions about the issue numerous times in the past, but has always stood firm in its position.
An academy spokesman said: “The Academy does not intend to change its practice of offering Midshipmen an opportunity for prayer or devotional thought during noon meal announcements.”
However, the Naval Academy stands alone among military colleges. All others have halted the practice of mealtime prayer (although prayers are often still included during special events like graduation).
Several West Point cadets recently complained about prayers during banquets. West Point’s spokesman, a colonel, responded to their complaint via e-mail to the New York Times: “During a very few big events each year, such as the 500th-night banquet and graduation we have a nondenominational invocation and benediction. That is all. Not during breakfast. Not during lunch. Not during dinner. Not in a box. Not with a fox. Not in a house. Not with a mouse.”
Who knew Army colonels had a sense of humor?
Back in Annapolis, midshipmen are required to stand at parade rest during the lunchtime prayer. Although not required to bow their heads, some say they would feel ostracized if they didn’t. One recent graduate said: “When everyone around you is doing that, especially as a plebe, it’s very domineering and kind of scary if you don’t wish to participate.”
If the academy doesn’t respond favorably to the ACLU’s request, a lawsuit may be the next step.
So what do you all think? Time-honored tradition or infringement of civil liberties?
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June 26th, 2008 at 6:16 am | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
I vote for infringement of civil liberties.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:15 am | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
Are you serious. Is the ACLU doing a new reality show, and they couldn't find a better plot for the season? leave it alone. Being in the navy is a choice. Im so sick of people sayin they're offended by simple crap like this. GROW UP and fight the other isnik thats happen in our country. I support the ACLU for the lots of right that they do for the law of freedom. But I will look down fast @ at them (and I feel a sum from many sides of the country) if they continue to tear down and mock the pride of this country. Im tired of efficient organizations thats looking for the wrong promos/publicity. This country is barely hanging and things like this, simple prayer at lunch at the USNA WHICH AS BEEN THERE FOR 163 years is helping us to barely hold on. Now, I dont say this because of prayer, I say that because of tradition. Tradition is what brings us together. I think that america needs some traditions to change, but this isnt it. NOw, as i think of it,I dont want those nine bafoons serving this country if they can't even stand there for a couple of mins..
June 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
When I was in the Military the non-Christians would just stand quietly and if they were theistic they would say their own prayer. If they were atheistic they wouldn't say anything.
There is no getting around the fact that the majority were/are Christian so it was almost a majority rules mentality and most viewed it as a pointless fight because they were not forced to pray or never felt they had to pray.
June 26th, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
The ACLU really pisses me off sometimes.
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June 26th, 2008 at 4:59 pm | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
"One recent graduate said: “When everyone around you is doing that, especially as a plebe, it’s very domineering and kind of scary if you don’t wish to participate.”"
Which basically means they are afraid of peer pressure. Tough s..t.
If you actually have the belief, have the balls to back it up.
The ACLU will (has) ruin(ed) this country and is teh basis for all political correctness.
June 27th, 2008 at 7:48 pm | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
Considering the ACLU was founded by a rabid communist, I am not surprised.
June 28th, 2008 at 7:36 pm | Please log in to reply. | Log in to rate this comment | report this comment
I am an atheist and am always sick of this crap. Majority rules? Nope. Not with religion and our tax dollars. ACLU should win this one, and the Naval Academy should stop their useless prayers. If prayer worked, would there not be peace? Dont you pray for peace and see it is a waste of time? We have separation of Church and State. Period.
You all can believe there is some invisible man in the sky, but I don't. We get pressure every day from these hypocritical religious people. Fat preachers preach against gluttony. They cheat on their wives, disrespect gay people. Hell, look what just happened in Texas with that polygamist sect. In the name of something, they took children from their families. In God I DON'T trust. Go ACLU. And Catholics can go on covering up when priests molest children, but all those religions seem disgusting to me.